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  • MeraNaamJoker
    08-05 10:56 AM
    so i am curious why did you wait that long knowing that EB3 train is a goods train w/o engine. You r pretty close now to your GC, however if 3 yrs back or so you had ported it to EB2, you wud had been greened way back.

    At that time, I was working for a multi billion dollar company where over a million people are employed. The HR department was not ready to serve any individual cases. Moreover the job prospectus were not great there at that time. It was always on the limbo. In fact, I did process another EB2 case in 2006. I got the I-140 Approval on that after the first one. And my employer's Immigration Department did not agree for a switch even after I pleaded to them. It was really hard luck. I spent over 18000.00 dollars to get that EB2 one which went down the drain. What to do? Its just fate.

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  • indianabacklog
    08-02 03:19 PM
    It is good to see the combined Immigration community efforts are bringing results. However, it appears that no attention is being paid to raise the issue of children ageing out because of visa retrogression and delay in labor clearance. The Child Status Protection Act(CSPA) passed in the year 2002 hardly provides any relief to I-140 based immigration petitions. While for I-130 (for US Citizens) applicants the date of child is frozen on the date of submission of I-130 form it-self, but for employment based immigrant applicants this Act provides a complicated way to calculate the child�s age and it just provides relief for any processing delays in 1-140 clearance only. It just ignores the fact that we have years of retrogression for employment-based category. At the time when this act was passed there was no retrogression in employment-based category and lawmakers perhaps never thought of hardship, which children and families may face because of the retrogression.
    We need to raise our voice on this issue too. My son is going to miss out the chance of getting his green card just because his age works out as per formula given in CSPA Act to be 21 years and 12 days � because of 12 days my family may be penalized to be separated from our child whereas no one is going to consider 3 years delay in labor case in my case and then another 13 months we have to wait for filing 1485 after approval of I-140. Mine case was the most unfortunate in the sense that I got my I-140 approval in just 29 days whereas in all cases the normal time is 3-6 months. Had it taken 2 months, my son would have got the benefit under CSPA.
    I hope some one from Immigration Voice leadership team will take a lead to highlight such issues also before the law makers.
    Sorry to hear your son is going to fall into what I can only describe as a black hole that the system choosed to totally ignore. I faced this situation a year and a half ago and transferred my son to an F1 student visa. As long as he is registered for 12 credit hours in college he gets to stay in the US. This is NOT a long term solution but there are few options available. We have to hope that somebody somewhere who can change things will finally see this as a problem and act on our behalf. I have contacted dozens of senators, congressmen etc etc and in all but two cases did not even get an acknowledgment.

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  • BharatPremi
    09-25 04:38 PM
    I think spillover method has not been changed since years. The only puzzle is that whether it is horizontal or vertical or combination of both that USCIS works with we exactly do not know.

    Do you guys agree ?

    In my opinion equal share of spillover count to oversubscribed EB categories for a particular year would be the final and legitimate solution.

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  • anurakt
    12-21 04:22 PM
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  • 485Mbe4001
    09-24 12:49 PM
    Only we can help ourselves. The 485 picture for EB3 is very bleak. The only way out is recapture. The hispanic cacus is opposed to any short term relief hence the chances of this getting passed are low but it is worth trying. If we will be doomed if hitch our wagon to the CIR... as you can see we just need 100k odd visas to make all the PD's current. CIR will add the nightmare of 5 million undocumented people and USCIS cannot handle that load in its current state.

    I hope the release of this information doesnt turn out to be another self goal. EB2's (some, not all) will stop worrying and working towards a resolution because they can sense that the end is near for them. I have some concerns with the dates because EB3 I should have been at Jan 2002 based on the numbers. I am sure others will do their own calculations with regard to their categories and realise that we are not out the woods.

    Please dont lose sight of the goal, if you had planned to meet your congressmen/Senators, use the spreadsheet to show that a simple solution will solve our problems. You can also convince the anti immigration lawmakers that recapture will not give GC's to a million people(as propagated by the anti websites). Please don't cancel your appointments or any planned tasks. talk about the people who are stuck since 1997.

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  • perm2gc
    07-17 06:54 PM
    Friends. you have today witnessed what our collective strength can do and it is time that we spread a word about immigration voice and encourage your friends and families to join as a gratitude to IV .Please don't forget that the root cause of the problems still exist and we have to achieve it.


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  • amitjoey
    12-15 04:26 PM
    Remember Lame duck session. Now imagine having twice as many members, double the number of phone calls and faxes and emails. Double the activity and contributions.
    We do have to make sure that next time (read: Jan 2007) We go with a bigger organisation. What is the use of talking strategy or doing things with the same number of people.
    Leave the strategy to the core team, Please help out with adding members.

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  • tonyHK12
    01-16 11:09 AM
    I have a question,
    Could you please provide how to get in touch with these political people and how to get their time and explain them? Do we get an appointment?
    Also draft of letters to provide them as a refrence?
    An Agenda when we visit them?
    If you could please provide these guidelines, we will know what all needs to be done and anybody interested would do it.

    Please visit to find your Senator and to find your house rep by ZIP code.
    Then you can call them up and fix an appointment with their immigration representative. Generally they may have a date only 2-3 weeks later.
    Once you have got a confirmed sate, please contact user StarSun, who will provide you with material and information on what to discuss with the law maker.

    I tried calling and setting up appointment with our local senator and congressman hack even their associates. I was told that they have too much on their schedule to meet with me. I guess:
    No vote = No Value...

    Could you let us know which district this was for both? There is a chance a few law makers out of 500+ may not be sympathetic to our cause. In some cases we could change that, but this is the reason everyone else needs to keep trying with other senators and congressmen.

    A modest suggestion:

    Talk to lawmakers about the redundancy of the Labour Certification and the Quota processes. Explain it this way. An employer needs someone for a job. They advertise the job, and find no qualified Americans for the job. They get the Secretary of Labour to certify that there are no Americans for the job (BTW, that's what a "Labour Certificate" the US Department of Labour certifying there are no Americans qualified to do your job!).

    Then that company, who has a need for an employee, needs to wait up to 10 years to hire someone permanently for that job (that's the Visa Number quota system). This is horrible for business productivity.

    Yes thats a good point that labor certification seems a bit redundant after the H1 process.Increase or elimination of country quota and a points/skill based system are also one of the longer term priorities of IV. Some of these may fit more into a comprehensive model as the changes would be large. For piecemeal recapture is a simpler option.
    IV has a predetermined set of suggestions to improve skill based immigration, including most of the above, which would benefit all immigrants. Will post a link shortly.


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  • Legal
    05-15 01:43 PM
    the person who took the phone asked where are you calling from? I think they care for calls only from the rep's distrcit? Also would verbal messages to any staff be sufficent? no fax?

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  • godbless
    12-18 12:09 PM
    Could anyone please tell how to post a new thread?:confused:


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  • amitkhare77
    05-26 06:36 AM
    Paper filed EAD renewal at TX USPS lockbox delivered on 5/13/2010. Check cashed 5/19/2010. received receipt on 5/24/2010. soft LUD on 5/25/2010, current status - "Initial review"

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  • illusions
    04-08 05:18 PM
    There are lot of support and response for this thread and can Core IV team consider this to be included in their Phase 2 campaign?. It will be an added feature for our to be legal immigrant community. ^^ Bump^^

    IMHO this would be great. i know i will be here supporting IV even after i get my GC. The truth of the matter is most users disappear as soon as they get their GC and stop supporting the greater cause (correct me if i'm wrong) of getting one's citizenship. I'm pretty sure we will probably see more users joining in to support this phase.

    Then there are also the ones, that have the mindset that since getting the GC most of the weight is lifted off ones shoulders, and one can do pretty much (not all of course) anything that a citizen can. So the waiting for 5 years is not a burden to most. I'm not too sure if this is the case with everybody, but some that i know feel that way....


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  • bskrishna
    05-16 09:40 PM
    Usually at this stage, RFEs are for Employment verification. Did you use AC21 to change job or roles? Did you change your house address?

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  • coopheal
    10-22 03:56 PM
    There are chances of a slowdown in the Dec visa bulletin due to Holiday season and internal audits.

    Does IV work on getting PDs moving on visa bulletin. EB3 India has been stuck around for Apr 2001 for more than a year. Has IV taken any steps in this regards.
    I would also like to thank you for doing a lot for IV.


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  • forever_waiting
    01-11 01:52 PM
    Every member who is discussing this thread and thinks this bill has a chance, schedule a meetign with your lawmaker today so that you can discuss OVERALL IV provisions and get a specific response on whether they will support, co-sponsor and vote for this bill. That will give us a direct answer instead of us speculating on the thread for months together.
    If we get 40-50 lawmaker meetings scheduled over the next 3-5 weeks, that itself will provide us with enough feedback to decide whether this bill is worth it or not.
    The point I am trying to make is that IV core is here to guide us and support us with national level advocacy. Nothing is going to happen in Congress until the grass roots efforts pushes congressmen/congresswomen/senators to think about a bill. Us sitting here and requesting IV to take up a cause (without any grassroots effort to back it up) is NOT going to help.
    Its only after meeting a lawmaker that we realize how Congress works. No one is waiting to fight our cause...we have to push for it and use the IV platform.
    So the plan can be -
    1) everyone here who is positive about this bill..schedule a lawmaker meeting. I volunteer to coordinate the list of lawmaker meetings scheduled.
    2) create a googlegroup with list of people working on the initiative. Keep track of feedback from each meeting.
    3) WIth the feedback from the 40-50 meetings, we will know if this bill has any steam. Even if not, we will at least have established a rapport with local lawmaker offices which can be used for other piecemeal legislations that come up.
    4) Keep the list of lawmaker meeting volunteers open and growing so that we will eventually have a large group of grass-roots volunteers regularly working on lawmaker meetings. These folks can keep track of legislations (through the forum, coordinator) and immediately schedule grass-roots advocacy/meetings when needed.

    We have to create a culture and a habit within the EB community of regularly meeting with lawmakers so that every one of our local lawmaker offices has our issues on their fingertips (even if they oppose us). merely coming to a forum and requesting iv core to do all they can, the day before a bill is to come to vote, is (for lack of other terms) plain stupid.

    Is anybody in?

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  • SGP
    04-10 06:15 AM
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Deadline = April 30th, 2011
    Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
    Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
    2)Email with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
    3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")

    This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.

    As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.

    Visit Immigration Voice Wiki ( 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
    Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki ( - for overview of this initiative

    As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.

    The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
    What can you do to participate?
    1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.

    Then please send an email to (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated

    2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.

    I485 Filing Initiative Flier (

    3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.

    Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.

    Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)

    (Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)

    Immigration Wiki -
    I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (

    PM these members for additional info:
    nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
    Dedicated members can also join the leaders group:


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  • my2cents
    01-25 03:14 PM
    Yes, that is what the trend look like. There is probably another 5-10% fall in the works. Perhaps even more. I agree with you on that.

    However, the million dollar question is how do you know the prices have actually bottomed one? Won't you go ahead and buy if its affordable, instead of wasting precious years which shorten the career span and deferring your decision? Its almost like deciding when to have your first child...well..almost. There is never really a good time, is there?

    By affordable, I mean its around 'x' times your (dual) income, you have your green card and you are prepared to live in the US for next 5 years at least (even if there is any family emergency, you don't have any compulsion to sell off your assets and move to India for good). Now, 'x' may mean different for different people but generally people seem to agree x = 3. And I also agree with you that it might happen that american housing is always affordable. Yes, it might but for most middle class in SFO Bay area, when x was 7-10, it wasn't affordable at all!

    I completely oppose folks like Slumdog doing something terribly rash (no gc, no prospect of gc within a year, single income with a baby, baby having some health issues and to top it all the burden of a heavy mortgage on the shoulders, god, I think his situation is simply awful...) but the way I read it is that these indeterminate immigration waits are making people throw caution to the winds.

    And I don't agree with folks who feel that buying your house is like renting it out simply because it is mortgaged. There is big difference, eventually its get all paid off and you start actually owning it. Secondly, for a lot of people that they can sell it during their retirement and use the sale proceeds to cover the retirement life. There is very good chance real estate would have appreciated over long term. Of course, you are just interested in 'flipping' you are asking for big trouble.

    I bought my house in 2004 and here we are in 2009 - stayed 5 years . house went up to $430 ( from $330K) and then down to $300. Lost 10% so far . I made sure that mortgage+living expenses is within 1 salary (have dual income) . if I stay another 3-4 years i will break even at any price. Yes if i would have bought house in 2006 (peak) and got a job problem in 2008 yes- i would be in terrible situation.

    Let's say if i would not bought the house - i would have used 10% down payment ( $33K) in some kind of investment (Stocks, bonds or CDs'). Based upon today's stock market i would have lost 30% on that until i would have withdrawn in 2008 Jan where market was at peak.

    There is never really a good time, is there? . Now housing is almost bottom and interest rate is so low now - but job market is terrible and you need to be careful about your job. Now let's say job market get's better in 2010 and you plan buy a house in 2011. you think you will have everything in order in 2011 . Make no mistake, you will another set of worry and things to take care.
    You need to take best decision based upon ur situation and need to minimize risk. You can only minimize the risk and not eliminate. A certain degree of risk is there in every step of life.

    I am 485 Filer ( EB3-I 2002 PD )

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  • das0
    05-16 08:51 PM

    I came to know from my company's attorney that this is my company policy NOT a USCIS policy that i must go back to IL (where Labor was originally opened) and then only my company will file I-485 for me

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  • istrategist
    05-21 06:06 AM
    Anyone who received the Card production ordered status earlier this month received their card as yet?

    04-17 05:22 PM
    Can anyone of you please post your experiences.

    07-15 09:38 AM
    No one is saying that IV is ditching Eb3.Everyone(at least EB3 guys) is saying that EB3 needs special attention because it's movement is dead now.

    While IV has not lobbied for any particular EB category but I think that is what they should be doing. Isn't one of IV's goals is to end retrogression ... so shouldn't EB3 be at least lobbied for since they are in such a mess ... I don't believe it sometimes that we are still in 2001.. that is 10 years back.

    In a couple of years EB2 will be more or less current. So that means a guy who came two years back will file in EB2 and get his GC and I who has been working here for 12 years would still be waiting in line.

    Some people say EB1 are brighter than EB2 and EB2 are brighter than EB3 . I find that funny because no one Eb1 or EB2 or EB3 is brighter than anyone unless someone has an extraordinary PHd or is a scientist . Its the lawyers who are brighter and how co-operative your company is.

    Besides when we filed in EB3 categories there was no retrogression and hence no one cared or else we also would have filed in Eb2 and got our GC.

    I think time has come for IV to lobby for help to EB3 people specifically since EB2 is almost done .

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